Has it been important for you to be able to keep busy doing music during lockdown?
Dean: “I think for me, it was vital. I feel like heading into Christmas everyone realised, actually, this wasn't going to all end with 2020, and I feel like January and February for a lot of people were probably the some of the hardest months of this whole process. And that is just kind of coincidentally where it landed. We were holed up in the studio, so I feel really, really grateful that we had somewhere we could go within the rules of the set-up and make music and be creative. Those were probably some of the hardest months of everyone's journey through this, mental health-wise. I felt everyday kind of dry. I think that I probably posted on my socials most days, just sort of like, ‘Thank God like that we can still do this.’ Because it’s taken us off tour for… I don't even want to know how long it's been now. I know it's over a year.”
Frank: “For me, since I was like, 16, this is the longest I’ve been in one place. It’s nuts, man. So I think, to mirror Dean’s statement, it literally saved me, multiple times, from very dark place. And we just put all of that into the songs. So while it's a serious listen in parts, we were also desperately trying to have fun at any point, because the world suddenly felt more serious than it ever had in the past. When there was no impending doom in the past, the impending doom was always me. So I was always looking really introspectively to try and get to the deep and the dark and the problems, because I thought that was my fucking role in the world. And then suddenly, the world is deep and dark, and I was like, ‘Shit, I gotta fucking find something to smile about here! This is crazy!’ And now I think that has been one of the best things to come out of this for Rattlesnakes, because we found a way to write serious records that are fun. And that is probably the greatest lease of life you can ever have, to remind yourself to live every day properly. Granted, there's a lot of lines about dogs shitting in the street, but it's still hopeful.”
How have you coped with lockdown in general?
Frank: “It's been a hard one for me, in the sense that I signed a lease on a tattoo shop in March of 2020 – which was probably the most tremendously awful timing they ever had in my life. But I’ll level with you: I think Rattlesnakes needed a break. I think we needed some time off the road. It's been really difficult not knowing when it's going to open, not knowing if we'd ever get music back. But, by the same measure, we were able to really focus on ourselves, our music, and our families, where having the sole focus being on the creation and maintenance of our support networks around us and our other jobs. Dean runs a whole design studio, and without Dean we wouldn’t have graphics, we wouldn't have videos, we wouldn't have album art, we wouldn't have any of it. So, having the time off put on us, and not saying, ‘Here's an option, do you want to take this time off now?’ I think I think we handled it really, really well.”
Dean: “After we did Ally Pally, I think we were planning to take something like three or four months off, and that felt like almost a bit of a lie. It feels weird to choose not to accept tours or whatever while it's happening, so we never take enough time off, but now we’ve had to. But we've been doing this five years, isn't it? It's not going away anytime soon. I think we probably needed more time off than we would have taken.”