The cover is in stark contrast to any of your previous artwork, as well as the music on this record. At the same time, it feels kind of rancid and rotten. Can you explain the intentions behind it?
Felix: I could say something like it represents the baffling and toxic feast of modernity, but we really didn’t approach it with that strong a concept. We just wanted to render a sickly, unreal still life. We’re glad that came across.
Ignat: I thought it would be cool to visually reference classic still life, of which there are about one billion. None of the stuff in those paintings was ever super appetizing. Like eviscerated, strung up rabbits and seafood, rotting and gross probably ten minutes into the painting.
The frailty of life (and the physical body) and the human condition have been themes featured prominently in your work, almost as if life itself is an affliction to be tolerated rather an opportunity to be celebrated. Would you say that’s true, and if so, why do you feel that way?
Ignat: A decade ago we had different attitudes towards life that might have been more accurately described as toleration. We’ve changed a lot since then, been changing. You know, growing up, grey hairs in the beard, stuff like that. I think if you’ve been depressed or anxious for a long time, even though it’s extremely hard to escape those modes of thinking, you might be able to make an effort. There’s hardly a point to living an entire life, year after year after year after year, as a martyr for the chemicals in your brain or your bad habits. Whether or not people truly have a choice in all that, in the absence of free will, that is a different discussion. How to feel better, I don’t have the answer to that. I don’t think it will ever come to be a celebration, but I definitely now view it as an opportunity to do something. You might as well try to come to terms with existence and do something, if you’re still here.
Felix: I celebrate lots of things in life, but I also fear a lot of things, and hate a lot of things, and mourn a lot of things, etc. Music is the drain through which those darker emotions can flow.
There also seems to be a deep dissatisfaction with humanity and society on this album, as well as people’s obsession with trivial, meaningless things in life. What do think the antidote to that is (if there is one)?
Felix: Socialism. That won’t fix the broken psychology of people, or the pointlessness of life, but it would be nice to see people’s suffering turned down a notch and to get off this express train to hell we’re on.
Ignat: So much to unpack. I would add Democratic* to the word Socialism because if you’re a child of the USSR like I am, you’re kind of wary of Socialism hanging out by itself. Increasing the safety net is going to make some improvements to American society, at the very least. It would probably improve people’s life satisfaction levels too, if they are not constantly struggling to make ends meet in a system that is essentially a rat race to squeeze profits. People’s obsession with the trivial? Good luck getting rid of that. Trivial is Homo sapiens' middle name.
How much does the darkness and despair of your music extend into your everyday lives?
Ignat: To be human and experience life is to fall down a seemingly infinite pit of emotion. We are overdosing on thoughts and emotions constantly. The body is small and finite but the mind is an Olympic swimming pool pumping in every second. Call it defective, pessimistic, or realistic, but the strongest emotions for me are negative ones, poignant ones. And they draw a lot of inspiration. All that stuff needs a place to go and we choose to put it into the music. It doesn’t necessarily mean that that is who we are all the way through, but I haven’t learned how to write happiness. If anyone has any tips on that, please let me know.
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Absolute Still Life is out on July 19 via The Flenser, and you can preorder it now.